MiGMan’s Flight Sim Museum

MiGMan’s Flight Sim Museum

Deutsches Museum Flugwert Schleissheim

FlyingSinger visited the German Museum - Aircraft Center in Schleissheim (Deutsches Museum - Flugwerft Schleissheim), a suburb of Munich in 1996.

Note: "Flugwerft" is German for the English "aerodrome"
"It's next to an old castle and a small airfield that used to be a glider training center in the 1930's (when the German Luftwaffe was forbidden from training pilots by the Versailles Treaty, they formed soaring clubs and trained thousands of glider pilots who later became fighter pilots). I was there in 1996 on a weekend between business in Germany and France. It's quite a nice museum, though the very shadowy lighting was not so great for photos!

Otto Lilienthal's glider
Schleissheim is not far from central Munich (it's near an S-bahn commuter train station). It's part of the fabulous Deutsches Museum of Technology, whose main building is in the city. I'm glad they found more spacious quarters for the aircraft. This museum (both the main building and the aircraft center) is well worth a visit if you are ever in Munich.
They have some early aircraft, including one of Otto Lilienthal's pioneering hang-gliders from the late 1800's (he inspired the Wright Brothers). There are some WW1-era aircraft (none shown here). The discomfort with the Nazi era is clear -- the WW2-era aircraft are German designs produced in other countries under other designations (He-111 bomber shown, produced in Spain), with no Nazi markings (these are forbidden in Germany except under special historical circumstances). I think there was a similar unmarked Me-109 fighter. I was pleased if surprised to see one of my favorite trainers, the Stearman, in blue and gold USAF colors! Post-war German markings are OK, and there are also former East German aircraft, including MiG-21 and MiG-23.

Heinkel He-111 with no national insignia The curators don't want swastikas or any other Luftwaffe markings not for legal reasons on the 'Luftwaffe' a/c.
"The reason is more simple: They are NOT Luftwaffe a/c! The museum don't want to show 'look-alikes'! They even repainted the 'Ju 52' in french markings as the 'Ju' is a french made a/c! If there is money to restore the CASA 'Heinkel' it will be repainted in correct spanish 'Pedro' markings. The legal reasons you state are absolutely correct, but there is no reason to show no swastikas in a historical correct sorrounding." - Hans Trauner
MiGMan thanks Hans Trauner for this additional information.

MiG-23 HUD
As the OpticsDude, I naturally had to photograph the MiG-23 HUD optics (I met the guy who designed this HUD -- I was teaching him our design software -- he was then at Zeiss Jena in East Germany, where most of the precision optics for the former Eastern Bloc were designed and built).

MiG-23 | Note - this looks more like a MiG-27 to me - MiGMan.

The F-104 is there, as well as the F-4 Phantom. One I had never seen was the Swedish SAAB Draken, with its unusual cranked delta wing. Another odd one looks like a prototype for the Soviet Yak-141 VTOL fighter (more like a direct copy of the Harrier actually).
" The VTOL which you state 'looking like a YAK 141' is a VFW-Fokker VAK 191 B prototype. The Germans where some sort of VTOL crazy in the 60'ies and developed a fighter, the VJ 101, a multi purpose fighter, the VAK 191 and a transport, the Do 31. All those prototypes are gathering dust now in the Deutsches Museum, the VAK and the Do in Schleissheim, the VJ 101 in the 'original' Deutsches Museum, Munich. By the way all those projects where terminated in the early 70's for budget reasons." - Hans Trauner

Fiat G.91
The Fiat was used in the ground attack role, but was replaced by the Alpha Jet ( used also by the French and Belgian AF, but only as trainers). The Alpha was replaced by the Tornado."- Hans Trauner